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Houston founder on driving the future of geothermal energy, storage

In a recent Energy Tech Startups Podcast episode, Cindy Taff discussed the evolution of Sage GeoSystems, the challenges of scaling hard tech solutions, and the opportunities presented by geothermal and pumped hydro energy storage. Photo courtesy of Sage

Cindy Taff, co-founder and CEO of Sage GeoSystems, has emerged as a visionary leader in the energy transition, recently named to Time magazine’s 100 Most Influential Climate Leaders in Business for 2024. Under her leadership, Sage is not only advancing geothermal energy innovation but also redefining how energy storage can support a renewable-powered grid.

In a recent Energy Tech Startups Podcast episode, Taff discussed the evolution of Sage GeoSystems, the challenges of scaling hard tech solutions, and the opportunities presented by geothermal and pumped hydro energy storage. Her insights reflect the unique perspective of a founder bridging oil and gas expertise with renewable energy innovation.

- YouTubeCindy shares how Sage Geosystems is leveraging its oil and gas expertise to develop groundbreaking subsurface pumped hydro ...

Breaking Boundaries with Geopressured Geothermal Systems

Sage GeoSystems is at the forefront of next-generation geothermal energy, advancing Geopressured Geothermal Systems (GGS) that can be deployed in a wide range of geographies. Unlike traditional geothermal systems, which rely on natural water reservoirs near volcanic activity, Sage’s engineered reservoirs allow geothermal energy to be tapped almost anywhere.

“Geothermal energy is no longer restricted to specific conditions,” Taff explained. “Our systems are flexible, scalable, and capable of meeting the needs of energy-intensive applications like data centers—including a recent deal with Meta to deliver 150 megawatts of geothermal power for their facilities.”

This adaptability sets Sage apart, offering a path to reliable, clean energy that can complement intermittent sources like wind and solar. Sage also secured a win in the Energy Transition Business category alongside notable finalists like Amperon and Tierra Climate, underscoring its leadership in innovative energy solutions.

Pivoting Toward Subsurface Energy Storage

While initially focused solely on geothermal, Sage uncovered a transformative opportunity in subsurface pumped hydro energy storage during field trials. Dubbed “upside-down pumped hydro,” the solution provides long-duration energy storage capable of balancing the grid for 17+ hours—far surpassing the capabilities of lithium-ion batteries for extended periods.

“Pumped storage hydropower is a critical piece of the energy puzzle,” Taff emphasized. By storing energy during off-peak times and releasing it when solar and wind aren’t producing, Sage is helping bridge the intermittency gap in renewables. This approach positions pumped storage as a game-changer for a reliable, clean energy grid.

Lessons from the Founder’s Journey

Taff’s transition from a 35-year career at Shell to geothermal entrepreneurship offers valuable lessons for founders in capital-intensive industries:

  1. Leverage Expertise, but Stay Open to New Solutions:
    Taff’s oil and gas background enabled her to approach geothermal with deep technical knowledge, but Sage’s pivot to energy storage illustrates the importance of staying adaptable during development.
  2. Educate Financial Stakeholders:
    Securing funding for hard tech remains a challenge. “Investors often lack the subsurface knowledge needed to understand our technology,” Taff explained. She emphasized the need to bring on team members who can translate technical innovation into financial terms.
  3. Be Ready for Capital-Intensive Scaling:
    With geothermal plants costing millions to build, startups must carefully manage capital and timelines. Taff encourages founders to seek strategic investors, like Chesapeake Energy, who understand the challenges and potential of scaling infrastructure.

Beyond Geothermal: A Call for Pumped Storage Hydropower

In addition to geothermal, Taff champions pumped storage hydropower as an underutilized climate solution. “While lithium-ion batteries get a lot of attention, pumped storage hydropower offers long-duration storage that can stabilize the grid for days, not just hours,” she said.

By storing excess energy during off-peak times and releasing it when solar and wind aren’t producing, pumped storage hydropower can play a critical role in balancing renewables. Sage GeoSystems is uniquely positioned to integrate this technology into a broader energy strategy, offering sustainable and scalable solutions for energy-intensive industries.

A Vision for Geothermal and the Energy Transition

Looking ahead, Taff sees geothermal energy and storage as critical components of a sustainable energy mix. “We’re still in the early stages, but geothermal is following a trajectory similar to wind and solar 15 years ago,” she said. Sage’s innovative approaches are paving the way for geothermal to become a scalable, competitive solution, capable of powering industries and data centers while providing energy storage that stabilizes the grid.

With her recognition by Time magazine and a recent deal with Meta, Sage GeoSystems is proving that geothermal energy can be a powerful ally in achieving global decarbonization goals. The company’s innovative Geopressured Geothermal Systems and subsurface storage solutions are laying the groundwork for a reliable and sustainable energy future.

Listen to the full episode with Cindy Taff on the Energy Tech Startups Podcast here.

Energy Tech Startups Podcast is hosted by Jason Ethier and Nada Ahmed. It delves into Houston's pivotal role in the energy transition, spotlighting entrepreneurs and industry leaders shaping a low-carbon future.


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HYCO1 has signed an agreement to convert 1 million tons per year of raw CO2 into industrial-grade syngas at a new carbon capture project in Malaysia. Photo via Getty Images.

Houston-based CO2 utilization company HYCO1 has signed a memorandum of understanding with Malaysia LNG Sdn. Bhd., a subsidiary of Petronas, for a carbon capture project in Malaysia, which includes potential utilization and conversion of 1 million tons of carbon dioxide per year.

The project will be located in Bintulu in Sarawak, Malaysia, where Malaysia LNG is based, according to a news release. Malaysia LNG will supply HYCO1 with an initial 1 million tons per year of raw CO2 for 20 years starting no later than 2030. The CCU plant is expected to be completed by 2029.

"This is very exciting for all stakeholders, including HYCO1, MLNG, and Petronas, and will benefit all Malaysians," HYCO1 CEO Gregory Carr said in the release. "We approached Petronas and MLNG in the hopes of helping them solve their decarbonization needs, and we feel honored to collaborate with MLNG to meet their Net Zero Carbon Emissions by 2050.”

The project will convert CO2 into industrial-grade syngas (a versatile mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen) using HYCO1’s proprietary CUBE Technology. According to the company, its CUBE technology converts nearly 100 percent of CO2 feed at commercial scale.

“Our revolutionary process and catalyst are game changers in decarbonization because not only do we prevent CO2 from being emitted into the atmosphere, but we transform it into highly valuable and usable downstream products,” Carr added in the release.

As part of the MoU, the companies will conduct a feasibility study evaluating design alternatives to produce low-carbon syngas.

The companies say the project is expected to “become one of the largest CO2 utilization projects in history.”

HYCO1 also recently announced that it is providing syngas technology to UBE Corp.'s new EV electrolyte plant in New Orleans. Read more here.

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