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Why this entrepreneur sees a bright future for hydrogen innovation Houston's energy transition ecosystem

Patrick Sullivan of Oceanit joins the Houston Innovators Podcast to share the potential he sees for Houston's energy ecosystem to transition efficiently. Photo courtesy of Oceanit

While Patrick Sullivan lives on an island almost 4,000 miles away from Houston, the entrepreneur is no stranger to Houston's energy ecosystem.

Oceanit, founded in 1985 by Sullivan, is based in Hawaii, a portion of its customer base is based right here in Houston. Additionally, he opened his company's H2XCEL lab locally earlier this year.

“We are, indeed, in the middle of the sea, but we work around the world,” Sullivan, who serves as president and CEO of his company, says on the Houston Innovators Podcast. “What we do in Houston is interesting because we consider Houston the center of energy. And energy makes the world go around, and there’s just no two ways around it. Of course, there’s lots of transition going on, so it’s an exciting time to be doing energy.”

Learn more about Oceanit's presence in Houston and the impact the company is having on the energy transition in the podcast as well as the excerpt below.


EnergyCapital: What’s the opportunity you see with hydrogen?

Patrick Sullivan: The US has several millions of miles of methane pipelines, so if you start looking at loading hydrogen into those methane pipelines, you start displacing carbon. There are all sorts of interesting trade offs, but one of the challenges is this area called embrittlement. What that means is hydrogen is a little molecule, and when you put it next to a metal, sometimes it likes to hide in the metal, and over time, sometimes it builds up and then it can crack that metal. That’s called hydrogen embrittlement, and people are worried about that.

Turns out, we have developed a technology for a military application, and we can do things to metal without embrittlement. We’ve learned a lot over the years. We thought, what if we take what we’ve learned in the defense space and apply it to energy with the pipelines.

EC: What’s your goal with your new Houston-based H2XCEL lab that features your hydrogen embrittlement prevention technology?

PS: We can test those to failure right there in Houston. We’re talking to all the pipeline companies about getting their steel pipe and running through all these tests to show how it’s going to perform with all these different mixtures.

The idea is to get the community to see that when you integrate technology from different fields into the energy space, we can keep making progress.

It’s going to take time. But if we start reducing carbon and the use of fossil fuel today, we buy time for the planet.

EC: What’s the next big thing within tech that you’re working on? 

PS: It’s a really interesting question, there’s so much going on right now, it’s really an exciting time in the tech space and the reason is because the world has been asleep at the switch for a while in terms of real technology.

One of the things we’ve put a lot of time and effort into is artificial intelligence. Large language models are definitely entertaining and have tons of opportunities. They’ve have got their pros and cons. We’ve worked with Noam Chomsky for years now, and our approach is based on Chomskyan grammar. The idea of human cognition is linguistic competency. When you speak, you’re mathematically efficient. It’s not random, it’s how human brains are put together. We built a system based on that hypothesis.

I think the reason AI is going to get more airtime too is the social and political consequences of misinformation.

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This conversation has been edited for brevity and clarity.

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The process permanently stores some CO2 underground, reducing carbon emissions and carbon intensity. Photo courtesy UH

A new report from the University of Houston estimates that a method known as carbon dioxide-enhanced oil recovery (CO2-EOR) could recover roughly 137 billion barrels of U.S. oil—with Texas and the Gulf Coast poised to play a major role.

A UH Energy-produced white paper, titled “Revitalization of Mature Oil Fields: Opportunities and Challenges of CO2-EOR,” looks at how CO2-EOR could increase U.S. energy supply, reduce carbon emissions and lower the carbon intensity of oil production.

CO2-EOR injects pressurized carbon dioxide into mature oil wells to loosen and push oil trapped underground toward the production wells, allowing operators to extract oil typically left behind. The process permanently stores some CO2 underground, reducing carbon emissions and carbon intensity.

“Injected CO2 works to revitalize mature oil fields by reducing oil viscosity, improving sweep efficiency and restoring reservoir pressure, resulting in incremental oil production beyond primary and secondary recovery,” the report reads. “CO2-EOR also supports permanent carbon storage and by virtue of this will produce uniquely low-carbon intensity oil for global markets.”

Authored by Charles McConnell, executive director of UH's Center for Carbon Management in Energy, and Zhiyuan Li, a UH petroleum engineering doctoral candidate, the paper says that much of the opportunity lies right under the feet of Texas oil companies.

Texas and the Gulf Coast, including its offshore resources, have half of the nation's oil resources considered favorable for the CO2-EOR technology, the report says. According to UH, conventional U.S. oil reservoirs contain 624 billion barrels, with 434 billion barrels still underground, including about 20 billion barrels of proven reserves.

Still, the paper argues that the economics behind CO2-EOR need to be considered. The process’ success depends on a number of factors, including costs of carbon capture, field redevelopment, operations, monitoring, transportation and available tax incentives, according to UH.

Logistically, developing CO2-EOR operations out of older wells and infrastructure presents pros and cons. While using older wells can be more economical, aging infrastructure may require more frequent monitoring, inspection, repair or re-plugging, according to UH.

Ultimately, the report recommends focusing CO2-EOR development on mature oil fields with existing infrastructure, well-understood geology and reliable CO2 supplies. This approach, UH says, could help extend the productive life of existing oil fields while supporting “lower carbon intensity oil for global markets and a significant contribution to energy security.”

Read the full report here.

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