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New podcast launches to shine light on changing energy landscape in Texas

The podcast, called Phases and Stages: The Texas Energy Story , will be hosted by Andy Uhler, who will visit a different Texas location every month to analyze the evolving energy landscape of the state. Photo via Getty Images

The University of Texas at Austin's Energy Institute is premiering a Texas-focused energy transition podcast next month.

The podcast, called Phases and Stages: The Texas Energy Story — a nod to Willie Nelson's 17th studio album, is an hour-long, story-format podcast hosted by Andy Uhler, an Austin-based journalism fellow at the Columbia University Center on Global Energy Policy & University of Texas Energy Institute and former KUT Radio reporter.

In the first season, which premieres Wednesday, September 25, Uhler will visit a different Texas location every month to analyze the evolving energy landscape of the state.

"Today, Texas leads the nation in combined wind and solar production and will soon be home to a Gulf Coast hub promising to expand the clean hydrogen industry," reads UT's website. "New energy ventures are proliferating across the state as entrepreneurs seize the opportunity to leverage Texas’ energy infrastructure and expertise to bring promising new innovations to market. Even oil and gas companies are expanding into nontraditional sectors, as advanced technologies open up new possibilities."

UT estimates that nearly 1.4 million Texans are directly or indirectly supported by the oil and gas sector. The podcast sets out to examine questions about how new energy expansion in the Lone Star State will effect the lives of Texans, as well as how the local economies and job markets are expected to evolve.

"Traveling the state to gather first-hand accounts beyond the oil rig and the boardroom, award-winning public radio correspondent Andy Uhler speaks with farmers, school teachers, community members, and everyone in between to get a sense of what the energy transition means for Texans and their communities," the website continues.

The UT Energy Institute will host a launch event for Phases and Stages with Uhler on Wednesday, September 25, 5 to 7 pm, to celebrate the show's series premiere as part of EnergizeUT.

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ExxonMobil Chairman and CEO Darren Woods said during the company’s recent second-quarter earnings call that the company is "concerned about the development of a broader market" for its low-carbon hydrogen plant in Baytown. Photo via exxonmobil.com

Spring-based ExxonMobil, the country’s largest oil and gas company, might delay or cancel what would be the world’s largest low-carbon hydrogen plant due to a significant change in federal law. The project carries a $7 billion price tag.

The Biden-era Inflation Reduction Act created a new 10-year incentive, the 45V tax credit, for production of clean hydrogen. But under President Trump’s "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," the window for starting construction of low-carbon hydrogen projects that qualify for the tax credit has narrowed. The Inflation Reduction Act mandated that construction start by 2033. But the Big Beautiful Bill switched the construction start time to early 2028.

“While our project can meet this timeline, we’re concerned about the development of a broader market, which is critical to transition from government incentives,” ExxonMobil Chairman and CEO Darren Woods said during the company’s recent second-quarter earnings call.

Woods said ExxonMobil is working to determine whether a combination of the 45Q tax credit for carbon capture projects and the revised 45V tax credit will help pave the way for a “broader” low-carbon hydrogen market.

“If we can’t see an eventual path to a market-driven business, we won’t move forward with the [Baytown] project,” Woods said.

“We knew that helping to establish a brand-new product and a brand-new market initially driven by government policy would not be easy or advance in a straight line,” he added.

Woods said ExxonMobil is trying to nail down sales contracts connected to the project, including exports of ammonia to Asia and Europe and sales of hydrogen in the U.S.

ExxonMobil announced in 2022 that it would build the low-carbon hydrogen plant at its refining and petrochemical complex in Baytown. The company has said the plant is slated to go online in 2027 and 2028.

As it stands now, ExxonMobil wants the Baytown plant to produce up to 1 billion cubic feet of hydrogen per day made from natural gas, and capture and store more than 98 percent of the associated carbon dioxide. The company has said the project could store as much as 10 million metric tons of CO2 per year.

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